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Stabilized approach thread
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Re: Stabilized approach thread
So…
In my ass-hat, outsider opinion (and barring extreme speed-gain wind shear) that (Gabiee’s link) is a pretty classic high and hot, unstabilized approach that probably should be abandoned. Nose way down, and landed pretty long!
Yeah, 3BS thinks zooming through 1000 feet, power off and knots steadily dropping towards the target and power gradually coming back up and arriving at the fence, on-target, is a thing of genius.
Yeah, 3BS understands Evanie’s rule AND that high and hot is a double-problem.
3BS has much faith in flyboy, Dummy, Bernt and Bobby to not run off the end of the runway…but Evanie would remind us that we pay a fair bit of money to not_go off-roading, like a few of their colleagues have done.
In my ass-hat, outsider opinion (and barring extreme speed-gain wind shear) that (Gabiee’s link) is a pretty classic high and hot, unstabilized approach that probably should be abandoned. Nose way down, and landed pretty long!
Yeah, 3BS thinks zooming through 1000 feet, power off and knots steadily dropping towards the target and power gradually coming back up and arriving at the fence, on-target, is a thing of genius.
Yeah, 3BS understands Evanie’s rule AND that high and hot is a double-problem.
3BS has much faith in flyboy, Dummy, Bernt and Bobby to not run off the end of the runway…but Evanie would remind us that we pay a fair bit of money to not_go off-roading, like a few of their colleagues have done.
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Hmm... when they talk about "step-down approaches" I didn't think they meant 10 feet at a time!
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Re: Stabilized approach thread
That's an old video.
Mouth diapers work because my uncle died of Covid. Also, sandblasting.
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-Evanie, the expert in everything.
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Yes.That's an old video.
An important example of how things were before Gabe and Evan enacted new procedures for your industry.
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Not_aligned at 1000 ft…
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Mispost. Belongs in the AI thread?
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It has to be fake, [i]we[/i] all know that real aeroplanies stall-spin-crash-burn-did-died if stupid pilots bank on fina
As always, Boeing is to blame.
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"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
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Huge speed fluctuation during the flare. Unstable. Should have gone around.
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Here supposedly the captain yells at the first officer while microphone is keyed.
I'm not aware of AA flying larger planes into EWR and American 880 shows on Flight Aware as an A321 operating from MCO to LAX months ago. Could it be we are being played/>
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B1wcW2jDoaY
I'm not aware of AA flying larger planes into EWR and American 880 shows on Flight Aware as an A321 operating from MCO to LAX months ago. Could it be we are being played/>
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B1wcW2jDoaY
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I have no idea if we are being played but it is not AA, it's Amerijet (a cargo company).Here supposedly the captain yells at the first officer while microphone is keyed.
I'm not aware of AA flying larger planes into EWR and American 880 shows on Flight Aware as an A321 operating from MCO to LAX months ago. Could it be we are being played/>
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B1wcW2jDoaY
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Thanks. Well, there you go. Here is a 763 traveling from San Juan to EWR. Maybe we do have a disgruntled freight captain out there.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/AJT880
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/AJT880
Don’t bank to steeply on base-to-final:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/163aH5 ... tid=wwXIfr
I’m thinking deliberately and perhaps some twist on a turf runway.
I’m thinking deliberately and perhaps some twist on a turf runway.
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Re: Don’t bank to steeply on base-to-final:
1. Missing now, for me, too.[A now-missing FB reel with an enormous final overshoot where the pilot continues, without banking steeply, and calmly lands on the grass and then rejoins the pavement]
2. As stated above, not_conventional but it also appeared deliberate, premeditated and possibly not_wrong, except to judgmental weenies on discussion fora.
3. It was also fun and unique.
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UPS 747-8 scratches turbinie.
Fire Boeing management?
Fun fact: "Ups" is El Español for "Oops".
Fun fact: "Ups" is El Español for "Oops".
International Ban ALL Aeroplanies Association, founder and president.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
Re: UPS 747-8 scratches turbinie.
We should put the engines over the wing. That also reduces the under-slung-engine-pitch-up response. I blame Boeing management.
I am not_Evan, but I bet there was some sort of “500/1000/whatever |stable” utterance…because that’s procedure.
I am not_Evan, but I bet there was some sort of “500/1000/whatever |stable” utterance…because that’s procedure.
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Re: UPS 747-8 scratches turbinie.
Wha...?Fun fact: "Ups" is El Español for "Oops".
I always thought the Español for "Oops" was "Aerosucre".
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Re: UPS 747-8 scratches turbinie.
Aerosucre is Spanish for that "if it's (...) ain't going" phrase.I always thought the Español for "Oops" was "Aerosucre".
International Ban ALL Aeroplanies Association, founder and president.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
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"If it's not overloaded I ain't going"?
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I bet a beer that things were OK at Evanie’s $20 terminology-thing called a “gate”.
I guess it ain’t all black and white.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BUFC3 ... tid=wwXIfr
I guess it ain’t all black and white.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BUFC3 ... tid=wwXIfr
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International Ban ALL Aeroplanies Association, founder and president.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
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Seems that article has a typo: they forgot to put quotes around the word "landing".
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Fixed.Seems that article has an omission: they forgot to rate it as a "very good to near-perfect landing".
If they hammer it, duct tape it and/or superglue it to flying condition, near perfect it is.
International Ban ALL Aeroplanies Association, founder and president.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
"I think, based on the types of aircraft listed, you're pretty much guaranteed a fiery death."
- Contemporary Poet flyboy2548m to a Foffie.
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